Upper Mini Dental Implants vs. Zygomatic and Pterygoid All-on-4 Implants

Mini dental implants and zygomatic implants are as opposite as they come! In this video I explain how someone with “no bone” on the upper jaw would consider mini dental implants vs. zygomatic/pterygoid dental implants. Which type of dental implant lasts longer? Which type of implant is prone to problems?

Video Transcription lightly edited for easy reading:

Hello, I’m Dr. Ramsey Amin. Today the topic is something that’s quite the opposite: mini implants versus zygomatic and pterygoid implants. Now we’re typically talking about replacing the full upper jaw (all of the teeth in the upper arch). And let’s talk about each one here for a moment.

Usually when this question arises is because somebody has been told they have no bone on their top jaw at all, and there’s nothing to anchor, so do you go really, really small and narrow or do you put something extra, larger, in different areas of the mouth?

So my own personal feelings of mini dental implants, and over the years and experiences that I’ve seen them, I call them temporary implants.

Mini Dental Implants (aka Temporary Dental Implants)

They’re very narrow. They are bendable and they break. They’re not intended to really support full teeth for a long-term basis. They could be used on a temporary basis in some situations, or when they’re really sick, who may need some denture support.

But mini dental implants (or temporary dental implants) certainly aren’t for long-term. Mini implants have never really been well accepted by the dental community. We haven’t found long-term success with them. It’s a quick fix.

Zygomatic and pterygoid implants

So if the upper jaw is typically hollow altogether and there’s no bone anywhere, the other option is putting implants in remote locations. That means that we’re going to anchor them into the bottom of the nose (or what’s called the vomer)…this thing called the piriform rim, the zygomatic arches, or zygoma it’s called. Or way in the back, called the pterygoid area. Those are areas that have bone, even in patients who have had severe bone loss.

Typically the upper jaw is hollow because the sinuses are very big. So even though you feel like you have gum there, inside there’s nothing to go into. So in my practice, patients who have hollow bone or no bone, I have utilized zygomatic and pterygoid implants for many years now, in addition to anchoring into the bottom of the nose.

It sounds a little bit strange that the implant doesn’t go through your nose at all, but it actually anchors into the base of the nose, just grabs the hard bone. And that’s what we’re looking for. Usually it’s hollow everywhere, and as we get a little deeper, there’s a hard spot almost everywhere on the upper jaw. And so that’s called remote anchorage or non-conventional implants.

All-on-4 implants or mini (temporary) dental implants – which type of implant is better?

So if I had to choose having my whole upper jaw (whole upper arch of teeth) replaced with mini implants or a combination of larger, longer implants (such as pterygoid, zygomatic or vomer nasal lifting), that would certainly be the way that I would do it. Or if my own mother or father needed to have their teeth replaced. Because all-on-4 dental implants give long-term solutions with a regular size diameter implant.

All-on-4 zygomatic (pterygoid) implants are, on average, 4.2 millimeters in diameter, versus a mini implant that’s two millimeters in diameter. That’s not very much if you look at a little ruler and check that out.

Also, with the options that I provide for patients, we typically will have teeth within 24 hours. That means I could take out the remaining teeth, I can put in the zygomatic, the pterygoid, the nasal type of implant, and have teeth attached right away. That means you’re smiling and all that is done within a day.

Of course, it takes a lot of work on the front end (some digital planning, facial scanning, which we call intraoral scan). It’s like a little wand that goes inside. We use what’s called a Trios that helps develop all the records beforehand and make sure that your jaw, called the vertical dimension, is correct…all before doing anything in your mouth at all.

  • I find that with the mini dental implant solution, they’re just kind of put in there, and then it’s more of an afterthought making the teeth. Whereas with the definitive way of doing real implants or zygomatic pterygoid implants, all that is pre-planned very carefully beforehand (a full digital workup, a full facial analysis).
  • All of this allows me to see and know what you’re going to look like before I ever start. There’s a lot of mental rehearsal that comes through, many times over, until we actually go to surgery and then deliver teeth that get computer milled. It’s really quite neat!
  • That means that little arms come out from a computer machine and drill away a large puck of material to make the smile really nice. And I have lots of examples on my website.

But bottom line…mini dental implants would NOT be my solution anywhere in the mouth for long term. Mini dental implants can possibly be a solution for maybe 18 months at most.

And again, zygomatic pterygoid dental implants are typically provided by a dental implant specialist with a lot more skills, training and experience whereas the mini dental implants are oftentimes placed by (or let’s say sometimes) providers who have very minimal training, or they’re afraid to open the gum completely or go into those deeper bone areas. Many of the mini implants fall out unfortunately and people are just left with nothing. And then that just kind of starts the process all over again.

I’d rather do it right the first time.

8 thoughts on “Upper Mini Dental Implants vs. Zygomatic and Pterygoid All-on-4 Implants”

  1. Dear Dr. Amin,

    I posted in another area on your blog, so I apologize if you already answered. A faculty practice oral surgeon at a dental school is proposing two 6 mm and one 8 mm implant for 21-19. He said he can also just do one 6 mm implant. There is not enough bone to do two 8 mm implants. The surgeon is confident that this will work and avoid a critical nerve. I’ve read your comments on mini implants for the top jaw. What is your belief about the bottom jaw? What would be a better option other than dentures? Thank you for taking the time to reply. Warm regards.

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    • In the context of dental implant treatment, nerve repositioning may be performed to move a nerve out of the way in order to allow for the placement of a dental implant.

      Nerve repositioning is typically only recommended in cases where there is insufficient space for a dental implant due to the presence of a high nerve. It may be an option for people who have a small jaw or a nerve that is located too close to the site of the planned dental implant.

      Whether nerve repositioning is a better option than short dental implants will depend on the specific circumstances of the individual patient. Factors that may influence the decision include the size and shape of the jaw, the location and size of the nerve, and the overall health of the patient.

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  2. I am in Florida also. I have a very special dental situation. I am missing my bottom incisor never erupted and in gums. Need space covered but no bone in jaw to bolt implant and can’t have a bridge because bottom tooth is loose. another tooth next to missing incisor is very loose and it will keep going until I can stabilize it.
    I am 44 year old woman and very conscious of my teeth 🦷. Please advise if you can see a solution
    I smile a lot and is very sad about it.
    Bibi

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    • Hi Bibi – There is always an alternative solution. I suggest you see a very experienced implant dentist for a second opinion. Feel free to uploadx-ray and other images to a public google drive link

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  3. This is my dream. I am in constant pain, have 8 abscesses. Several teeth broken off, have had several pulled and my dentist wants to pull my entire upper and place a denture. As I type this I am crying because I am 40. I can’t eat, sleep due to pain and so self conscious. I want to wait until i can afford implants, but who knows if i will ever be able to. My entire life inhave put everyone else first. I need to make a decision soon because i have severe pain and my teeth are still developing calculus although i have had them cleaned recently. Should i go ahead and get the denture to get out of constant pain and feeling so bad or should i wait?

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  4. I have been wearing dentures since age 14. I have no bone left in my upper gum. I had artificial bone implants done but my own bone did not accept it so it was a failure. I am a 75 yr old female.
    In relatively good health. I just got new dentures which I had made long so that when I smile you can see them. I have very little bone left under my nose but have good suction so far so can get by with dentures now. What procedure would be good for me. I live in Florida.

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    • It would be great to see you. There are very few people that can treat you. Like this post mentions you may be very easily treated with zygomatic, pterygoid and other nonconventional implants which would get rid of your denture in 24 hours!

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